FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

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FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby turly » 22 Nov 2015, 21:38

FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA (tagged "El Kabong") is now available. Don't get your hopes up...

If people want to try 2.5.9 BETA on public betas of 10.13, you can turn off FP's version checking via:
defaults write com.finderpop.finderpop ignoreSysVersionCheck -bool true

Note that all that does is turn off the version checking, if there are still underlying FP problems with the new OS, I'll need to investigate.


This BETA release of FinderPop adds a "menulet" feature to allow access to FinderPop via an "FP" icon on the right-hand-side of the menubar. Enable it in the FinderPop prefpane's "Options" tab. This is useful for running FinderPop - after a fashion - on OS X 10.11 El Capitan. Note that this only gives you the same facilities as "click-in-unused-menubar" - maybe I can eventually add drag and drop support. As usual, you can grab and drag stuff from the resulting FinderPop menu, and all the normal command/option/shift/control stuff applies. Command-click the FP icon to get a menu of currently running apps, Shift-click to get the Desktop menu showing disks and other items on the desktop, a "normal" click gets you the FinderPop menu as if you'd clicked-in-unused-menubar (which doesn't work for most Apple apps when SIP is enabled on El Capitan.)

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FinderPop Menulet
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See previous notes about FinderPop compatibility on OS X 10.11 El Capitan.

INSTALLATION:
Ensure you use Apple's unzipper to unzip the FinderPop zip file as some third-party unzippers do not respect permissions.
Ensure that the System Preferences panel is CLOSED. Quit. Not running. Double-click the FinderPop.prefpane icon. System Preferences will
open and ask if you want to install FinderPop for all users or just you. Choose "All Users" and continue.
On 10.6+, FinderPop "sees" what it was you clicked on in the Finder via the Services subsystem - ensure that you have Folder Actions Setup
enabled: System Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts > Services > Files & Folders > (ensure Folder Actions Setup is checked.)


  • 2.5.9-BETA Adds an optional menulet or menu extra as described above.
  • Minor bugfixes and improvements
  • Add new "Toggle File Extension" AppleScript.
    Note that if you have 'Show All File Extensions' checked in the Finder Preferences' "Advanced" tab, that overrides any individual file's settings.
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FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA - no menulet in 10.11.2

Postby Blaubeere » 30 Dec 2015, 17:46

Hi turly,

I've use FinderPop for many years (since Mac OS 7.5 or 8) an I love it. I don't want to live without it.

Recently I upgraded from Yosemite to El Capitan (10.11.2). SIP is enabled and I don't want disabling it. Today, I've install FinderPop 2.5.9-Beta to try the menulet. But I can't see the menulet in the menubar, though I've enable it in the "Options" tab of the FP prefpane. Rebooting my iMac or switching FP on and off takes no effect. What's wrong? I've understand your explanations, that the menulet should work with SIP is enabled. It seems, that something blocks the menulet.

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Re: FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby turly » 31 Dec 2015, 11:36

Hmm, that's an odd one. Was this a completely fresh install of FP (ie it had never been installed on that system before)?

Can you go to the FinderPop prefPane's "Etc." tab, click "Uninstall FinderPop" and follow the instructions? Your FinderPop Items folder and FP settings will be untouched so you don't need to worry about losing data.

Then re-install the FP-2.5.9 you downloaded - making sure you choose to install for "All Users" instead of just you. Let me know how it goes.
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Re: FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby Blaubeere » 31 Dec 2015, 13:41

No, it wasn't a completely fresh install of FP. I had install FP 2.5.9-Beta over the existing version 2.5.7, which was disabled since upgrade of El Capitan.

Today I've uninstall FP how described ("Uninstall FinderPop" in the prefPane and follows the instructions) and re-install FP 2.5.9-Beta as admin-user for "All Users". But it take no effects: I get not the menulet in the menubar. I open the FinderPop prefPane (FinderPop is "On"), go to "Options", enable "Use menulet to invoke FinderPop" and close the prefPane's window, but there is no menulet in the menubar. If I re-open Finderpop prefPane, the Option "Use menulet to invoke FinderPop" is disabled again! Switching FP off and on don't change this behavior.

I wish you a happy new year!

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Re: FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby Blaubeere » 01 Jan 2016, 18:33

Hi turly,

I've play around the problem, but get no solution :(

* Deinstalling FP and fresh reinstall. No menulet.
* Disabling SIP, restart, fresh install of FP 2.5.9-Beta. FP itself works, but the menulet don't appear.
* Enabling SIP, restart. No menulet.

The option "Use menulet to invoke FinderPop" get disabled every time I close the prefPanes window with both: SIP disabled and SIP enabled.

EDIT:
I've now tried the hint from member Salamac in his post "Yes, FP works in El Capitan with SIP!" in the FP Support Forum (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=350). Yes, FP 2.5.9-Beta works with SIP. But without menulet - same behavior as before.

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Re: FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby Aquilae737 » 06 Jan 2016, 05:17

Hi Turly,

Thanks very much for continuing the development of FinderPop, like other longtime users, I'd be stuffed without this wonderful utility. I'm getting really disappointed with Apple's disregard for developers and users and its tendency to make applications and the OS less intuitive and more gimmicky.

I put off upgrading (cough) to 10.11 until I knew there was a working version of FinderPop.

The beta version seems to be working okay for me when I click on the FP section of the menu and it occasionally works on the blank part of the menu. Is that a quirk of 10.11?

Thanks again for your excellent work, don't let the bastards beat you.

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Re: FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby turly » 06 Jan 2016, 12:48

It'll work in the blank part of the menu for non-SIP-protected apps. This generally means all third-party apps and some Apple apps that they haven't gotten around to protecting.

Happy new year!
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Re: FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby fox » 14 Jan 2016, 02:20

I'm not sure how they did it but the utility, Default Folder, now works with El Capitan without disabling SIP.
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Re: FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby cortig » 14 Jan 2016, 02:57

I'm not sure Default Folder X had to face the same challenges, especially regarding the Finder integration.
From what I've read, it was a significant work nonetheless, rewriting large chunks of the original code.

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Re: FinderPop 2.5.9-BETA

Postby blueberry » 14 Jan 2016, 05:36

cortig wrote:I'm not sure Default Folder X had to face the same challenges, especially regarding the Finder integration.
From what I've read, it was a significant work nonetheless, rewriting large chunks of the original code.

Corentin


Default Folder 5.0 has basically the same function as v4 but it is now an application, not a System Preference as it used to be. It resides in the Application folder, not the PreferencePanes folder. You can choose to have it starts when you log in and you can show it in the Menu Bar. Aside from that I haven't noticed a difference in behavior yet.

I am not sure FinderPop could work as an application because it directly interacts with the Finder on a constant basis.
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